syllabus differences

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Hi Ichiro

These are WIKF Dan grade combinations. There is a 3rd one -

HIDARI HANMI GAMMAE:
HIDARI SHOTEI JODAN NAGASHI UKE / HIDARI JODAN URAKEN (at once) - SONOBADE MAWATTE URAKEN CHUDAN - GYAKU URAKEN JODAN RENZOKU WAZA - HIDARI SIDE-STEP BACKWARDS, MIGI HAND JODAN COVER (for jodan mawashi geri) - HIDARI MAWASHIGERI JODAN - HIDARI ASHI BARAI (at once) - MIGI GYAKAZUKI CHUDAN

There is a bit of footage of them courtesy of WIKF Italy. Look in the second column.

http://www.suharikan.it/english/filmati.htm

My understanding is that these go back many years to the famous Wado club at Nichidai university -Having practised these for years I dont think there is anything Shotokan esq about them.

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I think those combinations are towards the end of this YouTube movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptS77k8725c
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Ichiro wrote:Furthermore, I would be interested to hear from other wado folk on how they conduct a Nidan geri jodan within your respected dojo. Do you execute it as the double jump kick like the name suggests or more of a tobi maegeri jodan?

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Hi ichiro,

You can practice both Ways. As for Nidan geri, THE first kick can Be gedan or chudan, THE second should Be Jodan.
Of course, you can do sune or maegeri mawashi or sokuto whatever you like.

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WadoAJ wrote:
Ichiro wrote:Furthermore, I would be interested to hear from other wado folk on how they conduct a Nidan geri jodan within your respected dojo. Do you execute it as the double jump kick like the name suggests or more of a tobi maegeri jodan?

Ichiro
Hi ichiro,

You can practice both Ways. As for Nidan geri, THE first kick can Be gedan or chudan, THE second should Be Jodan.
Of course, you can do sune or maegeri mawashi or sokuto whatever you like.

Regards, AJ
Thank you all for your replies. The videos have been a help in showing me what they are all about. Although, quite a few of you are using terminology that I have not heard of before for certain techniques. For example: you can do sune, what is SUNE? I have never heard of that before. Also, a 'MIGI CHUDAN HIZA TEN KAO GERI' I understand everything except the word 'Ten'. My understanding is it is a right middle knee kick to the face. But in what scenario would this be executed?

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Ichiro,

Sune means shin. Sometimes in Japanese terminology THE name is About THE hand or feet. Sometimes it is About THE direction. Sometimes it is About ukemi THE other time About torimi. In this case THE name of THE kick is named after THE target.

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WadoAJ wrote:Ichiro,

Sune means shin. Sometimes in Japanese terminology THE name is About THE hand or feet. Sometimes it is About THE direction. Sometimes it is About ukemi THE other time About torimi. In this case THE name of THE kick is named after THE target.

AJ
So what about hiza ten kao geri?
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When i did Suzuki karate i did these renrakuwaza too. As far as i can remember it was just hiza geri. Ten can mean sky or perhaps heaven And kao face but it would depend on Japanese writing.
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Ten to mean 'change' as in san mi ittai. Kick to knee then change to kick to face.

but you are far too late... He is gone.

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WadoAJ wrote:Ichiro,

Sune means shin. Sometimes in Japanese terminology THE name is About THE hand or feet. Sometimes it is About THE direction. Sometimes it is About ukemi THE other time About torimi. In this case THE name of THE kick is named after THE target.

AJ
Yes you are right A.J. so it is always about context.

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What's THE thing with THE THEs AJ?
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