Hi Ichiro
These are WIKF Dan grade combinations. There is a 3rd one -
HIDARI HANMI GAMMAE:
HIDARI SHOTEI JODAN NAGASHI UKE / HIDARI JODAN URAKEN (at once) - SONOBADE MAWATTE URAKEN CHUDAN - GYAKU URAKEN JODAN RENZOKU WAZA - HIDARI SIDE-STEP BACKWARDS, MIGI HAND JODAN COVER (for jodan mawashi geri) - HIDARI MAWASHIGERI JODAN - HIDARI ASHI BARAI (at once) - MIGI GYAKAZUKI CHUDAN
There is a bit of footage of them courtesy of WIKF Italy. Look in the second column.
http://www.suharikan.it/english/filmati.htm
My understanding is that these go back many years to the famous Wado club at Nichidai university -Having practised these for years I dont think there is anything Shotokan esq about them.
shep
syllabus differences
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Re: syllabus differences
I think those combinations are towards the end of this YouTube movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptS77k8725c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptS77k8725c
Re: syllabus differences
Hi ichiro,Ichiro wrote:Furthermore, I would be interested to hear from other wado folk on how they conduct a Nidan geri jodan within your respected dojo. Do you execute it as the double jump kick like the name suggests or more of a tobi maegeri jodan?
Ichiro
You can practice both Ways. As for Nidan geri, THE first kick can Be gedan or chudan, THE second should Be Jodan.
Of course, you can do sune or maegeri mawashi or sokuto whatever you like.
Regards, AJ
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Re: syllabus differences
Thank you all for your replies. The videos have been a help in showing me what they are all about. Although, quite a few of you are using terminology that I have not heard of before for certain techniques. For example: you can do sune, what is SUNE? I have never heard of that before. Also, a 'MIGI CHUDAN HIZA TEN KAO GERI' I understand everything except the word 'Ten'. My understanding is it is a right middle knee kick to the face. But in what scenario would this be executed?WadoAJ wrote:Hi ichiro,Ichiro wrote:Furthermore, I would be interested to hear from other wado folk on how they conduct a Nidan geri jodan within your respected dojo. Do you execute it as the double jump kick like the name suggests or more of a tobi maegeri jodan?
Ichiro
You can practice both Ways. As for Nidan geri, THE first kick can Be gedan or chudan, THE second should Be Jodan.
Of course, you can do sune or maegeri mawashi or sokuto whatever you like.
Regards, AJ
Ichiro
Re: syllabus differences
Ichiro,
Sune means shin. Sometimes in Japanese terminology THE name is About THE hand or feet. Sometimes it is About THE direction. Sometimes it is About ukemi THE other time About torimi. In this case THE name of THE kick is named after THE target.
AJ
Sune means shin. Sometimes in Japanese terminology THE name is About THE hand or feet. Sometimes it is About THE direction. Sometimes it is About ukemi THE other time About torimi. In this case THE name of THE kick is named after THE target.
AJ
AJ van Dijk
President & Chief Instructor Wadokai Holland
General Secretary FEW Federation European Wadokai
http://www.WadokaiOnline.com - Wado Books // Wado DVDs
http://www.wadokai.nl
http://www.fewkarate.com
President & Chief Instructor Wadokai Holland
General Secretary FEW Federation European Wadokai
http://www.WadokaiOnline.com - Wado Books // Wado DVDs
http://www.wadokai.nl
http://www.fewkarate.com
Re: syllabus differences
So what about hiza ten kao geri?WadoAJ wrote:Ichiro,
Sune means shin. Sometimes in Japanese terminology THE name is About THE hand or feet. Sometimes it is About THE direction. Sometimes it is About ukemi THE other time About torimi. In this case THE name of THE kick is named after THE target.
AJ
Re: syllabus differences
When i did Suzuki karate i did these renrakuwaza too. As far as i can remember it was just hiza geri. Ten can mean sky or perhaps heaven And kao face but it would depend on Japanese writing.
AJ van Dijk
President & Chief Instructor Wadokai Holland
General Secretary FEW Federation European Wadokai
http://www.WadokaiOnline.com - Wado Books // Wado DVDs
http://www.wadokai.nl
http://www.fewkarate.com
President & Chief Instructor Wadokai Holland
General Secretary FEW Federation European Wadokai
http://www.WadokaiOnline.com - Wado Books // Wado DVDs
http://www.wadokai.nl
http://www.fewkarate.com
Re: syllabus differences
Ten to mean 'change' as in san mi ittai. Kick to knee then change to kick to face.
but you are far too late... He is gone.
oneya.
but you are far too late... He is gone.
oneya.
Reg Kear.
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Wado Kokusai San no Ya.
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Re: syllabus differences
Yes you are right A.J. so it is always about context.WadoAJ wrote:Ichiro,
Sune means shin. Sometimes in Japanese terminology THE name is About THE hand or feet. Sometimes it is About THE direction. Sometimes it is About ukemi THE other time About torimi. In this case THE name of THE kick is named after THE target.
AJ
oneya
Reg Kear.
Wado Kokusai San no Ya.
http://www.sannoya.com
Wado Kokusai San no Ya.
http://www.sannoya.com