Tobikomizuki- my mission

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Re: Tobikomizuki- my mission

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If you want something to think about, think about Pinan Nidan. And then come back to us... :-)
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Re: Tobikomizuki- my mission

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Oh yes, I'm learning that too. Lots of fun. I'm really enjoying Wado- more than any other martial art I've studied. It's conducive with the way my brain works though my body is sometimes slow to follow.
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wadoka wrote:If you want something to think about, think about Pinan Nidan. And then come back to us... :-)

In terms of wado that's a bit like Rome with all roads leading back to it , so that should be a few years down the track.

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Re: Tobikomizuki- my mission

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This kind of depth of thought towards each aspect of Wado is the reason I enjoy it so much. I've always been interested in deconstructing things to help understand how they work. Would you chaps say that Wado is perhaps one if the most cerebral martial arts you've studied?
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majin, as Oneya points out, you can take some time to reply.
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Re: Tobikomizuki- my nemesis

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majin29 wrote:I have one more enquiry- what is the application of this waza? The junzuki is fairly obvious but that pull back that follows it- I'm curious as to what that should be intended for. Is it a grab? A block? Just curious.

Thanks kindly.
Let me add something to wadokas reply. It is a more practical And dynamic approach, hence a reason for hikite. Leave Your arm out And THE opp wil grab it, at least i Will.

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Re: Tobikomizuki- my nemesis

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WadoAJ wrote:
majin29 wrote:I have one more enquiry- what is the application of this waza? The junzuki is fairly obvious but that pull back that follows it- I'm curious as to what that should be intended for. Is it a grab? A block? Just curious.

Thanks kindly.
Let me add something to wadokas reply. It is a more practical And dynamic approach, hence a reason for hikite. Leave Your arm out And THE opp wil grab it, at least i Will.

AJ
I'm curious about Majin's question, just what is meant by 'pull back that follows it'? Pulling what back, the hand? (front or back?) or the front foot?

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Re: Tobikomizuki- my nemesis

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Tim49 wrote:
WadoAJ wrote:
majin29 wrote:I have one more enquiry- what is the application of this waza? The junzuki is fairly obvious but that pull back that follows it- I'm curious as to what that should be intended for. Is it a grab? A block? Just curious.

Thanks kindly.
Let me add something to wadokas reply. It is a more practical And dynamic approach, hence a reason for hikite. Leave Your arm out And THE opp wil grab it, at least i Will.

AJ
I'm curious about Majin's question, just what is meant by 'pull back that follows it'? Pulling what back, the hand? (front or back?) or the front foot?

Tim
Sorry- I meant the lead arm that does the junzuki. When that gets pulled back I wasn't sure what that was for. My sensei says I should only have about a fist space between the elbow and ribcage in that end position. Makes sense to me- protect the ribs.
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Re: Tobikomizuki- my mission

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wadoka wrote:majin, as Oneya points out, you can take some time to reply.
Hai.
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majin29 wrote: Sorry- I meant the lead arm that does the junzuki. When that gets pulled back I wasn't sure what that was for. My sensei says I should only have about a fist space between the elbow and ribcage in that end position. Makes sense to me- protect the ribs.
That is the explanation I use, the one fist bit.

I would avoid the word "pull" though. Think more on the fact that you are not fixated in the limit of the punching action, and that you have taken off the tension so that the arm can drop (which it does naturally if you do not hold it up).

If you were asked to perform backfist, palm heel, knife hand strikes in quick succession afterwards you will not be too quick if you go into a push/pull model. thrust/relax/drop and thrust again. Try it but don't inhale/exhale on each technique!
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