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Wado kata - bunkai vs kaisetsu

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:51 pm
by claas
There are a few videos and books with Wado bunkai and the topic of bunkai vs kaisetsu has been discussed a lot through the years. I was trying to think of a good topic where to put these videos with Kushanku and Niseishi with bunkai. Browsed through all the topics here on Wado talk and was surprised to see that there is not a single topic that says anything about bunkai and kaisetsu in its name. There was only one that was called bunkai and it seemed like one of these where you find something funny on the internet.

Anyway, here we go:

Kushanku
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1nFK_E37_Cc
[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1nFK_E37_Cc[/youtube]

Niseishi
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ax2Aeq37TRk
[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ax2Aeq37TRk[/youtube]

What is this video and when was it made?


EDIT: what's the matter with the youtube-tag?

Re: Wado kata - bunkai vs kaisetsu

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:13 am
by mspain

Re: Wado kata - bunkai vs kaisetsu

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:53 pm
by claas
Thank you!

Noticed that the videos were publiced in 2003. Was actually interested in some standards which was the reason for asking about the year. Especially in Kushanku I believe some changes were made after the videos to the shiteigata version. There is another thread (if I recall correctly) about shiteigata but for the lazier people here are the old shiteigata listings.


The original Shiteigata

Seienchin & Bassai Dai (Shitoryu)
Jion & Kanku Dai (Shotokan)
Saifa & Seipai (Gojuryu)
Seishan & Chinto (Wad-ryu)



Daini Shiteigata

Kururunfa & Seisan (Gojuryu)
Empi & Kanku sho (Shotokan)
Matsumura no Rohai & Nipaipo (Shitoryu)
Kushanku& Niseishi (Wadoryu)


So this video covered the daini shiteigata.

Sorry for the topic drift. Maybe better to continue about shiteigata and its standards in the shiteigata thread and continue here about bunkai and kaisetsu. Just wanted to put this in perspective, since I guess I was not the only one wondering what exactly these videos were.

Re: Wado kata - bunkai vs kaisetsu

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:57 pm
by claas
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=341

That is the link to the topic about WKF dropping Shiteigata. Will copy the last two messages from this topic there to help the situation.