Wado Myths

[oneya]

You can't do Wado kata if you don't know how to fight.

Gusei21

Ah..that's the wado chicken and egg right there... ! welcome back Gusei21.

oneya

[oneya]

Did he also follow the myth of always look at the opponent, which turns ends up in them sticking their heads out like a nodding pidgeon?

The simple act of bowing and taking yoi can be done so badly at times.

Well he struggled with the concept of intent at first but he turned out to be the perfect student in his desire to learn and changed after a few reminders, maybe it was something I said.??

oneya

[Gary]

Did he also follow the myth of always look at the opponent, which turns ends up in them sticking their heads out like a nodding pidgeon?

The simple act of bowing and taking yoi can be done so badly at times.

Well he struggled with the concept of intent at first but he turned out to be the perfect student in his desire to learn and changed after a few reminders, maybe it was something I said.??

oneya

I think for many it is a move in a performance that they are doing - as their instructor/group does. So why be different?

I think it was Ben that I was talking to about what appears at first to be a lack of formality in a Koryu dojo compared to that of what is perceived as "typical" in many gendai arts today, however there is a difference.

As Wadoka has said - no need for all the bows. We bow at the beginning and end of the class (we also bow to the sword if we are doing koshi no mawari), and to each other at the start and end of a paired kata session. However, you keep the bow (or the mindset of such) constant through out your training, so - you never really switch it off.

Gary

[WadoAJ]

Did he also follow the myth of always look at the opponent, which turns ends up in them sticking their heads out like a nodding pidgeon?

The simple act of bowing and taking yoi can be done so badly at times.

haha

[WadoAJ]

talking about bowing too much....

washinkai ohyo kumite


OMG....

"history of Washinkai"
It was in late 1977 that Chris Thompson came to the conclusion that due to be being disillusioned and dissatisfied with the Wado-Ryu organisation in the UK that it would be best if he severed all connections with them.
This meant that Chris Thompson was one of the first breakaways and one of the first Englishmen to formulate his own style, training and grading syllabus.

[shep]

I'm with you totally on that one wadoka, also the slapping of the sides of their thighs when they perform the bow. Argh!!!

Do people still do that Shep? I haven't seen that in ages.

Tim

To be fair, I've not seen it in this country but a few times on Youtube.

While we are on the subject of things that annoy or at least make me smirk, I attended a course a few months back and there was a high ranking Dan grade complete with Korean 'V' Neck Do Bok with WADO RYU emblazened down the legs complete with black trim. The name of his karate school written on the back of his top and a big thick long belt with all type of gold writing and bars on it so you were in no doubt what grade he was.

It takes all sorts I suppose

shep

[Tim49]

Did he also follow the myth of always look at the opponent, which turns ends up in them sticking their heads out like a nodding pidgeon?

The simple act of bowing and taking yoi can be done so badly at times.

That's what I call the Tinkerbell bow, cos the head jutting forward causes the arse to stick out; very prim.

Tim

[karateman7]

karateman7, open source of information - I like that.

I think it is true that we can say 'Those who want to see the light will see it.' But as some of us have on various forums, tried to give some light, there are those that have invested so much who won't try and look, there are those won't believe and who is to say that any of us have any answers for others. It can be a fruitless exercise at times.

I totally understand this. This is why I appreciate the people who stick with it.

As for the open source of information, it's either that or threads like "Who would win in a fite (sic) Jiro Otsuka or Sazuki (sic)." :))

[wadoka]

That kind of forum is exactly what I would not want to happen to here. Intelligent discourse only please.

[oneya]

karateman7, open source of information - I like that.

I think it is true that we can say 'Those who want to see the light will see it.' But as some of us have on various forums, tried to give some light, there are those that have invested so much who won't try and look, there are those won't believe and who is to say that any of us have any answers for others. It can be a fruitless exercise at times.

I totally understand this. This is why I appreciate the people who stick with it.

As for the open source of information, it's either that or threads like "Who would win in a fite (sic) Jiro Otsuka or Sazuki (sic)." :))

I think we're reasonably safe from this kind of Youtube detritus washing up here karateman7,but it has occurred to me that: even with the best will in the world, the parlous state of some now ingrained 4th & 5th generational miss-understandings and wado lite teachings, the most we can realistically offer is another myth that a forum’s smörgåsbord of wado ryu titbits alongside a trickle of good intentioned seminars can cure anyone's wado ills.

oneya