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Youtube stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:41 pm
by shep
Some newish YT stuff here

Kihon Kumite 10 by Kazutaka Ohtsuka

http://www.youtube.com/user/rastaman031 ... T9tNJChP24

Wado Ryu Tsuki

http://www.youtube.com/user/rastaman031 ... q-WtCdxR3Y

shep

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:36 pm
by Gary
Nice find Shep.

Need to ask though - does anyone else see something odd with the Rohai here or is that how it is done in the Renmei?

http://www.youtube.com/user/rastaman031 ... h-RzK0wQGA

Gary

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:51 pm
by shep
Hi Gary

I hadn't seen that one. Its not the way we do it

shep

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:40 am
by zim
Gary wrote:Nice find Shep.

Need to ask though - does anyone else see something odd with the Rohai here or is that how it is done in the Renmei?

http://www.youtube.com/user/rastaman031 ... h-RzK0wQGA

Gary
Hi Gary,

If you are referring to the use of shiko-dachi versus naihanchi-dachi then yes, this is how Rohai is presented in the Renmei videos.

It's funny that you use the word "odd". While I appreciate this is a fairly common word use to describe different in English, I wouldn't think the use of shiko-dachi in Wado to be considered odd.

Recently someone on YouTube has been putting together the 3 major versions of Wado kata. See link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1fMfdz4 ... re=related

Just playing devil's advocate here but as the head honcho said, "martial arts must never become an igata" so couldn't one argue that the different versions of kata are the manifestations of his students' "live" kata?

Cheers,

Chris

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:45 am
by wadoka
I think it was the one legged loop the loop that looped the other way.

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:52 am
by wadoka
I was watching a TV programme the other day and it discussed language. One point it picked up one was the more directness that north Americans use and expect whilst say the Brits might hint at some initially and work towards the actual point in a negotiated way. Yanks need it spelling out.

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:53 am
by blackcat
zim wrote:
Gary wrote:Nice find Shep.

Need to ask though - does anyone else see something odd with the Rohai here or is that how it is done in the Renmei?

http://www.youtube.com/user/rastaman031 ... h-RzK0wQGA

Gary
Hi Gary,

If you are referring to the use of shiko-dachi versus naihanchi-dachi then yes, this is how Rohai is presented in the Renmei videos.

It's funny that you use the word "odd". While I appreciate this is a fairly common word use to describe different in English, I wouldn't think the use of shiko-dachi in Wado to be considered odd.

Recently someone on YouTube has been putting together the 3 major versions of Wado kata. See link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1fMfdz4 ... re=related

Just playing devil's advocate here but as the head honcho said, "martial arts must never become an igata" so couldn't one argue that the different versions of kata are the manifestations of his students' "live" kata?

Cheers,

Chris
Hi Chris

I think Gary is referring to the two turns later in the kata where the performer in this example continues in an anti-clockwise direction.

If anyone would like the originals of the Kazutaka Otsuka film which Shep posted the link to originally then drop me an email as I have both films for sale.

Ben

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:13 pm
by oneya
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This 'contra' version of Rohai is not new though, I saw it demonstrated by a student returning from a two year stay in the UK about twenty five years ago. At that time it was leaking from a different wado organisation.

I asked "'what was the point?" then and I'd have to ask the same now.

oneya

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:18 pm
by wadoka
If we had never seen Rohai kata before, would it be an unreasonable move to do?

I've not seen it done that way though.

Re: Youtube stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:39 pm
by Gary
wadoka wrote:If we had never seen Rohai kata before, would it be an unreasonable move to do?

I've not seen it done that way though.
Probably not.

Makes sense, in that it is the way your leg would seem to want to go around.

But then we lose the purpose of the move in this kata.

Gary