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wadoka wrote:My angle when I was talking about enbu, was that it was non-competitive.

People just get up and show, then get off. No judges and the assumption is that this was a solely Wado day not an Open Competition.

Ah, right, I understand now, bit like a kind of demo.

Tim

wadoka wrote:My angle when I was talking about enbu, was that it was non-competitive.

People just get up and show, then get off. No judges and the assumption is that this was a solely Wado day not an Open Competition.

Hi wadoka, perhaps that was an extent of what I mentioned about dealing with nerves and stress? I have done quite some demonstrations by now and the good ones where always the ones when I had that "enbu feeling". after the first kime I was all in the game so to speak.

my sensei used to say: "the bigger the audience, the better is my performance"

AJ

Yes.

Is it enbu or embu?

wadoka wrote:Yes.

Is it enbu or embu?

haha now it is getting off topic, but interesting nevertheless.
in the past I was used to empi and embusen. Later on, I understood that "M" does not really exist at the end of a sound. Rather N like san. (although you don't really pronounce san with the N like we do. Anyway, hiragana is "ん”

However... I got some books of nihongo and read somewhere that "N" turn into "M" if it is followed up by "P" or "B". As you know Our book is not yet printed so I'm still wondering to use enpi or empi etc...

my initial doubts were raised seeing embusen and enbu...

AJ

WadoAJ wrote:

wadoka wrote:Yes.

Is it enbu or embu?

haha now it is getting off topic, but interesting nevertheless.
in the past I was used to empi and embusen. Later on, I understood that "M" does not really exist at the end of a sound. Rather N like san. (although you don't really pronounce san with the N like we do. Anyway, hiragana is "ん”

However... I got some books of nihongo and read somewhere that "N" turn into "M" if it is followed up by "P" or "B". As you know Our book is not yet printed so I'm still wondering to use enpi or empi etc...

my initial doubts were raised seeing embusen and enbu...

AJ

Hi AJ,

It is my limited understanding that when an "n" sound preceeds a bilabial consonant it us sounded as an "m".

As far as writing it, well I know that in my Sosuishi ryu group they call it Embu - as in this section of the website.

http://seirenkanuk.wordpress.com/enbu-% ... %e6%ad%a6/

[edit] although I just noticed the in the hyperlink it is spelt enbu??

Gary

wadoka wrote:Yes.

Is it enbu or embu?

It's interchangable, since the hiragana & katakana syllabry in Japanese ん・ン can be pronounced as either "n" or "m".
Therefore, both "embu" and "enbu" are technically correct.

Would that be the same with kumite/Gumite, Kata/Gata??

shep

shep wrote:Would that be the same with kumite/Gumite, Kata/Gata??

shep

I don't think so. Kihon kumite is incorrect I think if you pronounce kumite with "K". it is just not how a Japanese would pronounce it. Well, all the Japanese I have spoken to anyway.

kumite gata
kata
tachi
shiko dachi
kaeshi waza
kote gaeshi

etc...

AJ

I think a new thread could be started regarding the nuances of the Japanese language. I think I'd best stick with my dojo Japanese, some say I still struggle wiv da Inglish innit!

shep

shep wrote:Would that be the same with kumite/Gumite, Kata/Gata??

shep

In the Japanese language, a number of words when suffixed have a phonetic syllabic shift. Some words starting with a "K" (Ka, ki, ku and so on) when suffixed start with a "G", "S" words start with a "Z" and kana like "tsu" become "zu/dzu".

Keru (蹴る - To kick) - Keri-waza: Mae-geri, mawashi-geri, etc.

Kiru (切る - To cut) - Kiri-waza: Kesa-giri, suihei-giri, etc.

And yes, geri (下痢) is diarrhoea.

Additionally, Giri (義理) is obligation.

It's important sometimes to know what we are speaking about, technically as budoka. Otherwise, we are talking about diarrhoea.........

There isn't a scatology dept. on this forum is there? *shudders*