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I was just wondering if someone has trained both wado idori and those similar sitting techniques of SYR ?

Some of the techniques can be imagined to be executed with sword also.

It makes me feel that some of the techniques originally ( in SYR) included sword.

Tenjin shinyo ryu has somewhat similar techniques in their syllabus..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhTpeCdA ... re=related
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It amazes me how effortless this looks, almost as if it is staged. I know it's not as i've had this done to me(not at this level) in the past....
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I think he might have some interesting information about this subject ?
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I would think so.A few on this forum have seen him in the flesh, they would know...
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go rin no sho wrote:I was just wondering if someone has trained both wado idori and those similar sitting techniques of SYR ?

Some of the techniques can be imagined to be executed with sword also.

It makes me feel that some of the techniques originally ( in SYR) included sword.

Tenjin shinyo ryu has somewhat similar techniques in their syllabus..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhTpeCdA ... re=related
Hello,

Although I have not trained the SYR Idori, I have trained Wado Idori and had the Tenshin Shinyo Ryu versions demonstrated to/on me. There are a lot of similarities there as well as some very apparent differences.

Regarding whether techniques can be done with the sword, certain techniques do cross over yes, however in the most part it is the kodachi that has greater utility in this scenario perhaps.

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Hi Gary,

You are right Gary. it seems that these kata assume that it is either godachi or tanto attack - not tachi ?

Wasn´t it so that it was acceptable to carry godachi indoors - while tachi was to be left outside ?
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go rin no sho wrote:Hi Gary,

You are right Gary. it seems that these kata assume that it is either godachi or tanto attack - not tachi ?

Wasn´t it so that it was acceptable to carry godachi indoors - while tachi was to be left outside ?
I have heard similar however I think in terms of application it is more to do with function and operating distance.

Its basically easier to grapple with a shorter blade that you hold with one hand whilst manipulating the opponent with the other ( often called Kogusoku)

Gary
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Here's how the Takenouchi boys do it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VajqlMYC988

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I don´t know how this fits in... But in the beginning of every kata we first move forward to close the distance.

The first distance (before moving forward) could be intepreted as a more correct distance for tachi attack ??

In KK we move forward with nijiriashi which is very subtle and sensitive way to move forward.

On the other hand, In Idori we control maai in a quite visible manner without intention to hide our approach...
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