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Shumokudori footage




:-)

Couldn't find the Wado Kai one.

Gusei21 wrote:Have you seen his shinken shiraha dori (sword defense) video?
Imagine that getting out and becoming the standard....It ...

I have thanks and I've had him swinging the sword at me too. I've also seen how your old instructor teaches them!

I don't think these things are for regular training for the majority of us and why anyone would bother to teach it on large group training course is beyond me.

Ben

wadoka wrote:Shumokudori footage




:-)

Couldn't find the Wado Kai one.

Here is the Wadokai version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0E3L1rtULI



I don't think Suzuki's video show either this one or gozendori either.

Ben

Who is the guy doing it in the snow?

blackcat wrote:

Gusei21 wrote:Have you seen his shinken shiraha dori (sword defense) video?
Imagine that getting out and becoming the standard....It ...

I have thanks and I've had him swinging the sword at me too. I've also seen how your old instructor teaches them!

I don't think these things are for regular training for the majority of us and why anyone would bother to teach it on large group training course is beyond me.

Ben

Ben,

Out of curiosity, where are you drawing the line when you say these things are not for regular training?
idori, tanto tori, sword defense?
And out of curiosity does anyone here know how often the WIKF practices these in a typical dojo or at a seminar?

For many of us we stop at kihon, kata, and jiyukumite.
We then have the occasional kihon kumite cram session before the dan examination.
I'm not saying this is good or bad. I'm just saying this is what we do.
And I am sure people in the Wadokai would have done idori more had Otsuka Sensei's knees been more healthier.
I was told he never taught them because his knees were an issue.
I know I don't like doing them much either. Whenever I schedule for it to be taught or I have to attend a seminar where it will be taught I take into account what I have to do next because I know the knees will take a beating.

Gusei21 wrote:[

Ben,

Out of curiosity, where are you drawing the line when you say these things are not for regular training?
idori, tanto tori, sword defense?
And out of curiosity does anyone here know how often the WIKF practices these in a typical dojo or at a seminar?

For many of us we stop at kihon, kata, and jiyukumite.
We then have the occasional kihon kumite cram session before the dan examination.
I'm not saying this is good or bad. I'm just saying this is what we do.
And I am sure people in the Wadokai would have done idori more had Otsuka Sensei's knees been more healthier.
I was told he never taught them because his knees were an issue.
I know I don't like doing them much either. Whenever I schedule for it to be taught or I have to attend a seminar where it will be taught I take into account what I have to do next because I know the knees will take a beating.

Just quickly as off to dojo - to your list, for me I'd add kihon gumite as part of the regular training and usually some other form of pair work kumite or bagwork/padwork whatever I was working on at the time. Idori and tanto dori are treats for weekend sessions when time allows, but tachidori - never.

Gotta go

Ben

Gusei21 wrote:Who is the guy doing it in the snow?

I don't know, just some find on YouTube.

Gusei21 wrote:I know I don't like doing them much either. Whenever I schedule for it to be taught or I have to attend a seminar where it will be taught I take into account what I have to do next because I know the knees will take a beating.

You're probably not doing it right then. Or at least your seiza isn't centered correctly.

Also, there is the conditioning issue. Moving efficiently from Seiza / Kiza takes time and regular training - not unlike ukemi -its going to hurt if it's not part of your regular training routine.

Gary

Even Jiro Ohtsuka wears knee pads.

Come on Bob, do it properly :-)

wadoka wrote:Even Jiro Ohtsuka wears knee pads.

Come on Bob, do it properly :-)

If you learn how to do it properly, you don't need knee pads.

Gary