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Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:03 pm
by Gusei21
Gordon,
I'm going to start slapping people....lol

Shep...I don't compete anymore. Neither do the other old farts here.
The point is that we competed in the past...and that experience and that type of training and body knowledge is invaluable to Wado training.
Some people never competed like Kyudo so they don't know what they are missing. Not sure what he did but his wife has a wicked reverse jodan mawashi.

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:09 pm
by shep
Gusei21 wrote: Not sure what he did but his wife has a wicked reverse jodan mawashi.
Ha ha! Mine has a wicked Furi Zuki :-(

shep

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:37 pm
by shep
......But i digress. Back to the original topic.... I have had the pleasure of x training in a little Goju every now and then. I like it. It is very different from wado especially the Go aspect as Gusei said. Bunkai is the be all and end all from what I can tell, they live eat and breath Bunkai. It is also very self defence orientated (at least the Goju club I've been to is)

It is infinately better than Shintani crap. So if you really cant find a bone fide Wado club then stick with Goju

shep

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:09 pm
by wadoka
Gusei21 wrote:Gordon,
I'm going to start slapping people....lol
Slap away...

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:33 am
by majin29
shep wrote:......But i digress. Back to the original topic.... I have had the pleasure of x training in a little Goju every now and then. I like it. It is very different from wado especially the Go aspect as Gusei said. Bunkai is the be all and end all from what I can tell, they live eat and breath Bunkai. It is also very self defence orientated (at least the Goju club I've been to is)

It is infinately better than Shintani crap. So if you really cant find a bone fide Wado club then stick with Goju

shep
Well, that's easier said then done because I think the Goju schools around where I live are about as pure as the Wado schools. There's one that regularly has Higaonna Sensei do guest clinics which is pretty good but I really would prefer doing Wado as everything I have read about it seems to agree with me more. I can take a free trial class at this Ultimate Karate school (admittedly it's not well marketed) and maybe even get a general idea of Wado. If it does turn out to be only so-so, but I stick with it, then I can seek out more reputable schools but as it stands, all schools in the GTA seem to be derived from Wado Kai and Shintani.

I also must ask, what is problemmatic with Shintani? I would honestly like to be as well informed as possible before I select a school to train at. I signed up for a year at the last school and found out about 6 months in that it was just a money pit but stayed for almost the whole year even though I knew I wasn't staying.

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:07 am
by oneya
Hi majin,

There are probably many that have been happy enough following the Shintani trail but fortunately it has not been the world wide phenomenon that the wado ryu, wado kai and wado kokusai currently enjoy as Wado Ryu representative bodies. The Shintani group - (as distinct from the JKF Wadokai who are the original body of authority that have denied any connection with the Shintani group) - has been confined to Canada and that in itself speaks volumes, however it has been a bone of contention on a few websites for a few years so most folk on this site would have had their fill of the Wado ryu versus Shintani group by now.

However if you wish to follow that trail: the following website holds a lot of discussion that may be illuminating.?

http://www.all-karate.com/forums/index. ... ntani+wado

oneya

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:42 am
by majin29
oneya wrote:Hi majin,

There are probably many that have been happy enough following the Shintani trail but fortunately it has not been the world wide phenomenon that the wado ryu, wado kai and wado kokusai currently enjoy as Wado Ryu representative bodies. The Shintani group - (as distinct from the JKF Wadokai who are the original body of authority that have denied any connection with the Shintani group) - has been confined to Canada and that in itself speaks volumes, however it has been a bone of contention on a few websites for a few years so most folk on this site would have had their fill of the Wado ryu versus Shintani group by now.

However if you wish to follow that trail: the following website holds a lot of discussion that may be illuminating.?

http://www.all-karate.com/forums/index. ... ntani+wado

oneya
Thanks for the info. It's too bad about the lack of variety or options in Wado up here. I'm looking for a small school with as little marketing hype as possible. I hope that that will mean they just want to train people and not worry about image or merchandising. The last school I went to is a very large chain- kinda like the Walmart of karate schools in Ontario...that should have been enough of a warning sign...ah well, I hadn't done MA for years leading up to it so I was a little green as far as my McDojo radar was concerned...

I'll check out that thread you linked to as well.

I love watching the vids of Suzuki Sensei. For an old guy, he certainly had some intensity and power. but very quick too.

p.s. I heard that Wado practitioners do not use the word "Osu" in their training. Is this true?

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:59 am
by oneya
p.s. I heard that Wado practitioners do not use the word "Osu" in their training. Is this true?

majin29

Well it is true ... for me..

oneya

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:03 am
by majin29
oneya wrote:
p.s. I heard that Wado practitioners do not use the word "Osu" in their training. Is this true?

majin29

Well it is true ... for me..

oneya
I cannot start training again until Sept. but I will let you guys know what I think of this Wado school up here in Toronto...not that I have any basis for comparison mind you...except my previous martial arts experiences.

Re: Enrolling in Wado Ru coming from Goju Ryu

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:11 am
by kyudo
majin29 wrote:I heard that Wado practitioners do not use the word "Osu" in their training. Is this true?
Here are older discussions on the same subject that might enlighten you:
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/wa ... ISO-8859-1