Internal Power

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Re: Internal Power

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Wado ryu is not simply and exclusively about education and learning a skill Igor. Its universal code reaches into an overlay of old rites of passage in a world where reason and reasoning often draws the short straw. While its practice is educational, it is also about the study of one's self in terms of willpower and self-discipline brought about via reason, tenacity and endurance all of which a good Sherpa will remind you will be needing together with a good lick of common sense at times along the way.

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Re: Internal Power

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Bit like in Kung Fu Panda.

He strives for the "Dragon Scroll" and when he finally gets it – it’s blank! Of course it is, because at the end of the day, there is only training!

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Re: Internal Power

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Dammit Gary, I was going to book for that film and now you've done the " Butler did it" thing...
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Re: Internal Power

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JuhaR wrote:So, wado is quite simple, then. All one has to do is to:

1. Find a good instructor
2. Train correctly

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I haven't quoted your whole post but seeing as it is your first post to the forum, I thank you and will respond.

I think we all have to search of it. I don't think it is a case of finding it somewhere else and then turning to your instructor thinking they suck. There should always be room for improvement within your own club, own association.

If I am able to improve and become less clunky than before, and if that means I am less clunky than the people around and that in itself leads others to de-clunk themselves then that is good all round.

It might be worth while for those crave something written to feast off, that they delve out the concise summarisation that Tim Shaw provided. I won't quote it, you have to search for it. Then you have to marry that text and see it in someone that has it. Not easy but it means you have to get out there, but that is a nice task, training and meeting people.
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Re: Internal Power

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wadoka wrote: It might be worth while for those crave something written to feast off, that they delve out the concise summarisation that Tim Shaw provided. I won't quote it, you have to search for it. Then you have to marry that text and see it in someone that has it. Not easy but it means you have to get out there, but that is a nice task, training and meeting people.
??? WhatdidIsay? WhatdidIsay?
If it was concise it probably wasn't me, I tend to ramble.

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Re: Internal Power

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oneya wrote:Wado ryu is not simply and exclusively about education and learning a skill Igor. Its universal code reaches into an overlay of old rites of passage in a world where reason and reasoning often draws the short straw. While its practice is educational, it is also about the study of one's self in terms of willpower and self-discipline brought about via reason, tenacity and endurance all of which a good Sherpa will remind you will be needing together with a good lick of common sense at times along the way.
Noted.
Thanks.
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Re: Internal Power

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I feel your frustration, Igor. I think that part of the problem is that there are very few people who are excellent at Wado--just as, say, there are very few people who are excellent at any particular art. Then, among those few who are excellent, there is an even smaller group of people who are excellent teachers. Then, among that small group of excellent teachers, you have to find one whose pedagogy fits with your own style/s of learning. Then, you have to live near enough to that person that can you learn from them regularly. Then, it may not be necessary but it's certainly helpful if you're still young and have the blazing fire of youth in your belly to learn. And it's helpful if you don't have 15-20+ years of weak instruction to overcome and thousands of hours of incorrect practice ingrained in every fiber of your being. And it helps not to have a job or a family or kids or other interests...

...then we might stand a chance.

But, failing all of that, and since we clearly have no intention of quitting, we'll just have to do the best that we can and try to keep enjoying it. :-)

Best,
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Re: Internal Power

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Last weekend Toby Threadgill and I conducted an internal power seminar in Berlin.
We had to do a lecture using an overhead projector so for once in my life I had to write stuff out instead of pulling it out of my a--.
I got a lot of requests for copies so instead of mailing them I will just post the lecture here.
Probably won't make any sense if you did not attend because we had people do drills along with the lecture for two half days.

Two things I learned from that weekend.

1) You will fail at this miserably if your kihon is not good. It's like watching fish flopping on the seashore after a rapid low tide.
2) I am never doing this again....
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Re: Internal Power

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Too busy at the moment to post what I said I would.
Instead please check this out.
Inoue Sensei is in my opinion one of the two best karateka in the JKF. The other is Takagi Sensei.
I have attended about 5 or 6 of his seminars over the years. His body movement is similar to Takagi Sensei.
Brief background.
Yoshimi Inoue started karate under Teruo Hayashi of Hayashi-ha Shitoryu.
After Hayashi Sensei passed away he broke away from Hayashi Ha and started his own version of Shitoryu - Inoue-ha Shitoryu.
When he was in Hayashi ha he trained all the kata people including Mie Nakayama. The top Japanese kata competitiors are his students including Rika Usami current female WKF World Champion , who just retired last week. Antonio Diaz, the current WKF male kata champion is his student.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... XJ_wo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRrKPZTDvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i6CUzGEoeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgmdRWbS1KU

Point of clarification. In the second clip he says 'no kick'.
What he means is to NOT kick off from the back foot or not kick off from the front foot. He is not talking about kicking kicking. He means don't push off the back leg or don't push off the front leg.
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Re: Internal Power

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Hmmm... that hand speed in the third clip looks familiar. Now where have I seen that?
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