Oh idiots...They dont know that if you practice ONLY against straight punches you learn in a mysterious secret way to deal with other attacks too...Just like the other idiots out there trying to improve Wado claiming that Wado needs to evolve....
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Well...Gusei21 wrote:I won't speak for Oneya but Gigo is the one who made the stances longer and added other silly stuff that ended up screwing up Funakoshi Sensei's Okinawan karate. They were trying to make the karate more scientific and modern (better). Just like the other idiots out there trying to improve Wado claiming that Wado needs to evolve....
You read Cook's book. It doesn't exactly sing Gigo's praise. Do you remember that he wrote about how Ohtsuka thought Gigo was full of ****?
BTW, if we are to believe Motobu, Gichin Funakoshi's karate was already screwed up to begin with...
Oops. We're drifting off topic here. Sorry Gordon....
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If we are to believe the stories of the JKA instructors course where those young guns go out testing their skills down the likes of Roppongi, they seemingly fared well and they are the masters of straight up and down working and no real bunkai.acer wrote:Oh idiots...They dont know that if you practice ONLY against straight punches you learn in a mysterious secret way to deal with other attacks too...Just like the other idiots out there trying to improve Wado claiming that Wado needs to evolve....
Through them mixing it up in jiyu kumite, I am sure they learnt to deal with a wide range of attacks.
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Stories stories stories...
And long before Giko easily lost the fight with the Goju Ryu practitioner...Some say it was one of the reasons Ohtsuka left.Nice story.Do you remember that he wrote about how Ohtsuka thought Gigo was full of ****?
Yes don’t forget the story when Ohtsuka rescue Funakoshi using his jj background from Motobu student.Another reason why Ohtsuka left (as some stories say again) and continue to train with Motobu.He (Motobu)was very Impressed with Ohtsuka's abbilities from that day.BTW, if we are to believe Motobu, Gichin Funakoshi's karate was already screwed up to begin with...
Oh a great story too..No evidence...Just a story..Just like the other stories,truth false who knows?If we are to believe the stories of the JKA instructors course where those young guns go out testing their skills down the likes of Roppongi, they seemingly fared well and they are the masters of straight up and down working and no real bunkai.
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Hi Acer, it sounds like it's time for a nice cup of tea an aspirin and a lie down.
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I have heard first hand stories, sadly from a senior UK Shotokan instructor who is no longer with us. I have heard second hand stories from a close friend of those that have been on various escapades. I don't know what evidence shall suffice.
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Acer, wasn't talking about you. There are bigger idiots than you out there.acer wrote:Oh idiots...They dont know that if you practice ONLY against straight punches you learn in a mysterious secret way to deal with other attacks too...Just like the other idiots out there trying to improve Wado claiming that Wado needs to evolve....
Your thing is 'reality based' practice dealing with what might happen out in the world. I don't take issue with that. Do what you want. We do the same thing but practicing variations is different from reworking the syllabus. I use our version of the syllabus as a baseline.
One way to look at it is this way I think. I used to be a Naui instructor. (National association of underwater instructors). We are considered an elite scuba instruction organization and routinely assist NASA when they work with the astronauts in swimming pools to simulate zero gravity.
We had a curriculum that we were REQUIRED to cover. But we were also given the latitude to go beyond the curriculum and talk about other things we deemed important. There are other major scuba instruction organizations that are not allowed to do that because they fear a lawsuit. The instructors there are forced to follow a precise script and are not allowed to deviate. I personally like the freedom to go beyond the curriculum.
Same with the syllabus. I have class today. Have no clue what I am teaching but I brought along my bokken and I think the students and I will be using it somehow and we won't be practicing sword defense. Last week we worked on how to hit harder especially after I recently crossed paths with Systema.
But everything we do in class is based on Wado as I understand it. But that is totally different from changing kata, creating new kata, changing the kihon, etc. Every class starts with kihon and ends with kihon.
Bob Nash
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ummm...I am also guilty of that too. The reasons may vary but a bunch of other karate friends of mine have done the same thing and if we did it then the JKA guys were even worse. We used to go to Shinjuku where the yakuza hang out. But you don't pick fights with the Yakuza because they will whip out knives or even guns. You find a 'chinpira' (minor yakuza in training) and you pick a fight with him.acer wrote:Stories stories stories...
Oh a great story too..No evidence...Just a story..Just like the other stories,truth false who knows?If we are to believe the stories of the JKA instructors course where those young guns go out testing their skills down the likes of Roppongi, they seemingly fared well and they are the masters of straight up and down working and no real bunkai.
You have about 2 minutes before the police show up so you have to hurry.
The folly of youth.....
Ajari told me that when he was in college they would go there with various martial arts clubs from Meiji University and have a contest to see who can take out a chipira the fastest. According to him the sumo guys were the strongest. They would take out a chinpira in 5 secs. Grab them in a headlock and slam their heads into a telephone pole. The karate guys did not have the same success rate as the sumo guys.
Bob Nash